YOUR FEEDBACK: Fake Disney Pin Trading Pins Sold Online

YOUR FEEDBACK: Fake Disney Pin Trading Pins Sold Online

Recently we have been receiving a lot of feedback from our readers about an increase in fake or “Scrapper” pins in orders of pins received from online resellers. We all agree that Scrappers are reducing the value and enjoyment of Disney Pin Trading and ethical traders and pin sellers are beyond frustrated.

As it stands, the Scrapper issue creates a vicious cycle for Pin Traders. The fake pins are purchased from overseas manufacturers, sold online by US resellers, purchased by Disney Pin Traders, and then traded in Disney Parks where they flood the Cast Pin Trading Lanyards and are re-traded by unsuspecting Disney Guests to the point where it’s tough to tell what’s real and what’s not. It’s Pin Laundering.  

Then the pins are resold online, honestly stating that the pins were “Traded For in Disney Parks” which may be true. This cycle means that when you are buying pins on line, there is no way to guarantee that you are purchasing Authentic Disney Trading Pins.

Like we said… it’s beyond frustrating.

We’ve written several articles, newsletters and facebook posts on how to avoid buying and how to identify Scrappers, and though education helps, the real opportunity for tackling this huge issue lies in raising awareness and sharing information within the Disney Pin Trading community.

We’re not suggesting that you blast every seller who sends you the occasional Scrapper, but if you’ve had an experience (good or bad) with buying pins on line you need to share it with others so that we can work together to raise awareness.

So we invite you to post your comments regarding your online pin buying experiences.

If there is a reseller who you want to recommend, go for it.          

If you are Disney Pin Seller who does your best to sell authentic Disney Pins, let us know.

And  if you’ve had a bad experience… well, we’ll leave that up to you.

Readers Comments

36 comments so far »

  1. Kevin Hall on March 5, 2012 at 12:36 pm said:

    I agree …. some sellers knowingly sell lots of counterfeit pins, and others sell pins that they picked up in the parks- and unwittingly pass along the fakes. If you take a look at most of the “pin boards” in the parks/resorts probably more that 40% of the pins are counterfeit/fakes.

    I’ve personally had dealings with a couple of counterfeit sellers on ebay …. every one of them has received neutral/negative feedback. I have received counterfeit pins from both Member ID “magical.beginnings” AND Member ID “423disneypinfreak”. My ebay user ID is “pintail149″ … look it up and check the feedback.

    I have also received counterfeit pins from people who were just not “aware” of counterfeit pins … I honestly believe that. They will not be named for their mistakes. ;-)

    There is another seller in Orlando that sells “some” counterfeits … & other pins that are real. Ebay user ID “themepark connection”. I purchased a LE 500 pin (pinpics #54829) from him that was definitely counterfeit. It was returned for a refund without problem.

    It’s definitely a “buyer beware” market.

  2. Kevin Hall on March 5, 2012 at 1:02 pm said:

    One other little thing … anything that I sell online, I purchased it straight from WDW. That’s the only real way to be sure of getting an authentic Disney pin. With a “trade” you have to use your best judgement and the reputation of the trader.

  3. Travis on March 5, 2012 at 2:38 pm said:

    I’m new to the Pin trading but I really love it. How do I identify scrapper pins?

  4. Heather on March 5, 2012 at 4:35 pm said:

    This is making me worried again about 2 pins that I recently bought off of ebay. Do all authentic Disney pins have very smooth edges? like any part of it shouldn’t feel scratchy right?

    • VTrolla on July 26, 2013 at 10:55 pm said:

      A lot of pins have the smooth enemal paint on them so most of them are smooth…. best thing to do is look for paint strokes, and miss spelling on the back.

  5. Roxanne Dalis on March 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm said:

    When I first started buying pins on ebay about 7 years ago I got a few fake pins. I was pretty bothered by it and now I only purchase pins that I have seen posted on authentic Disney websites, have seen in the parks,or after asking the seller to confirm the Disney stamp on the back of the pin. I have not received a fake pin in over 6 years! Some sellers will try to convince you that Sedesma pins are authentic….they are NOT!!! It has also been my experience that if you notice a fake pin on a cast lanyard and inform them…they are great about removing it right away. Cast members pride themselves on doing everything possible to only have authentic pins to trade!

  6. on March 6, 2012 at 9:24 am said:

    I purchased pins from disney.crazy on eBay. They were all fakes. I should have known the deal was too good to be true. Please be wiser than I was and avoid this seller at all costs!

    • I just bought pins from this seller and I feel so sad :( to find this out now

      • Ginger on March 21, 2012 at 8:59 am said:

        I saw on Facebook that someone said he was selling fakes- SO, I contacted him because I just bought a “surprise” lot of 26 from him. He assured me that they are genuine Disney pins. All I can do is believe him. they look fine to me—- So I’m really unsure. I probably wont buy from him again though, since I’ve heard this twice now. Very disappointing.

        • VTrolla on July 26, 2013 at 10:49 pm said:

          He is just selling fake pins, I’ve bought one lot of 50 for 17 dollars… first red alert should have hit me in the face….

          I get them and find out that they are all fake… not one is real out of the 50!!!

  7. on March 8, 2012 at 11:51 am said:

    I am new to the fun and games and I am already getting frustrated. Especially since I am not sure if it is real or fake. Some you can easily tell, some you cannot. It makes me angry inside to think I am passing on junk to the kids out there. If the pin does not feel right I toss it…..or I did. I have talked to other traders and have recieved a great idea from a fellow pinner. If you really like the pin, why toss it? Snip off the stick pin part, some hot glue and a magnet makes for great little gifts for fridge magnets. Fun!!

  8. Baylor on March 13, 2012 at 11:21 am said:

    i bought pins from Disney.crazy and they were all authentic

    • VTrolla on July 26, 2013 at 10:53 pm said:

      You were lucky then, all 50 of mine were fake… disney.crazy

      don’t look at the logo, since most all pins come from China and those Chinese companies have the pin molds…. best thing to do it look at the paint enamel if you can see distinctive lines in the paint 8 out of 10 times its fake. also look for spelling errors in the back or missing/ miss matched paint

  9. Brian on March 14, 2012 at 6:23 pm said:

    I think if Disney was really serious about it, they would have the pins
    made here in the U.S.
    Instead they pushed that business to China and Lo & Behold…knockoffs
    The Chinese manage to copy or ripoff just about everything so why not
    Disney pins also.

  10. Debbie on March 19, 2012 at 3:36 pm said:

    Boo! I bought pins from wd_pins on ebay in February for an upcoming Disney trip. I just researched the 25 this seller sent me. All fakes! I guess I just paid $20 bucks for pin backs! I hate cheaters and China!

  11. The fakers just keep arriving. I too bought from Disney.crazy and received a few real, mostly fakes. I also bought from disneyfamily108 or was it 801, sorry I do not remember. I should I was so MAD. I bought 2 lots of 25 from disney family, two seperate days, getting ready for a trip to trade at Disney the pins arrived on the same day two seperate packages…..It was like Christmas, 2 packages to open. I gave one to my partner and we ripped into them. EACH PACKAGE HAD THE EXACT SAME PINS IN THEM AND THEY WERE ALL FAKE!! Sorry for yelling but do you know how frustrating that was, how disappointed we were. I went on Ebay immediatly to leave feedback and low and behold I could not go in and leave feedback on this seller, WHAT!! They disappeared that fast…. I look for their name every once in awhile but have not seen them. So it is more expensive but I now will only buy from Amazon, or Disney. Happy Trading!!

    • Mouse Pin Trading on March 26, 2012 at 9:41 am said:

      Make sure that you’re always buying from sellers who have some history, and some good feedback. It isn’t always a sure thing, but at least it helps a little.

    • Heather Meyers on May 14, 2012 at 9:22 pm said:

      I just bought from them and after reading and learning that there are scrappers out there took a look at his/her feedback….. they have so much good but the bad feedback all said fakes/scrappers and the seller belittled the buyers saying they are new to pin trading…. I returned the pins for a full refund…. and bought from a reliable seller whose pins were fantastic…..bizzybee1!

  12. on March 30, 2012 at 12:46 pm said:

    I’ve got another one ….

    Just purchased this pin from Ebay … Item # 180843285283 ” WDW Adventures on the 7 Seas Lagoon – Pirate Stitch Gift Pin” Pinpics # 54829 from Ebay Member ID “prouddaddy41″.

    The colors are correct, but there are some serious issues with the enamel surface — dips/craters & enamel running over the ‘dividers’, ‘sanding/paintbrush’ marks and a dull finish. It’s definitely counterfeit.

    Anyway, I contacted the seller and advised him that the pin was counterfeit .. never asked for a refund … just asked for the “source” of the pin. He suggested that I get an “official” appraisal before suggesting it’s fake. Yeah … Like I need some else to tell me that. ;-^) I informed him of the amount of counterfeits and the MAJOR problem that it has become. Here is his reply … “I got this directly from a cast member.Saying this pin is counterfeit is like telling a casino one of the $20s they gave you is counterfeit.There’s more chance that this is a scam you pull on people selling Disney pins…telling them they are fake once you get them.If you want to destroy it, go right ahead. I’ll give you a refund if you send it back with an appraisal from a real appraiser proving it’s counterfeit.” There … I just got accused of scamming! ;-) OK… now, I’m a little PO’d. Fine. The rest of the conversation is immaterial.

    I’ve left negative feedback and opened a complaint for selling counterfeits. I stated in the complaint that I do NOT want a refund – I just want the seller reprimanded.

    Fair enough. :-)

    • on March 30, 2012 at 8:56 pm said:

      Just found out – Ebay sided with me & issued a refund.

      I just also received a nasty message from him. Good riddance.

  13. I made a pamphlet that I pass out to every new pin trader I meet. Check it out: {{LINK REMOVED}}

    • Mouse Pin Trading on April 4, 2012 at 2:21 pm said:

      Thanks for the information Jessica. We needed to remove the link because our site is currently under close observation by Disney and your pamphlet violates Disney’s trademarks and copyright in the opinion of our attorney. You can include a link to your website if you want, but I would be very careful, their lawyers are on the lookout.

  14. Barry on April 9, 2012 at 10:09 am said:

    I was told by a Disney employee that ALL pins which are Magnetic are counterfit any truth to this ?? Barry

    • Mouse Pin Trading on April 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm said:

      Hey Barry,
      This is absolutely false. If you go to the pin racks at any Disney pin location, a portion of the pins will be magnetic, so this isn’t a way to tell scrappers.

  15. on April 11, 2012 at 2:11 am said:

    I found a seller on ebay who is a top rated seller, but the more I look through the pins the more upset I’m getting. I bought enough so that the family would have fun in Disneyland but it doesn’t look like that will happen. We leave in 18 days and have no chance to get other pins. :( Being new to this I don’t know if they are all bad, but many seem to be. Looking at the pins on pinpics every pin I got shows a comment to beware.

  16. Badonkajunks on April 23, 2012 at 8:09 pm said:

    Still don’t see a source for detecting fakes? What to look for? I imagine the Chinese have found a way to cast the seal on the back by now. Please point me in the right direction.

  17. rogers on April 24, 2012 at 5:48 am said:

    how can you tell if a pin is fake? I have sold and have more to sell on ebay. But I want to make sure that they all are real. I had always assumed that they were real.

  18. Stephen on May 12, 2012 at 7:35 am said:

    We picked up 100 pins on ebay to get ready for our next trip to the WDW. We had two scrappers out of 100. Those are the first two that I have ever found. I showed them to my daughter and explained to her what they are. We simply put them in the trash and kept sorting. It is going to happen as long as Disney manufactures its pins in China.

    If you do not know what a scrapper looks like, check the Disney pin trader site provided by Disney. They have examples of what real pin markings look like.

  19. Gabriella Gai on May 15, 2012 at 10:22 am said:

    I recently bought some pins from an ebay seller named Jeffrey Young. He had 100% feedback and posted at his pins were 100% authentic…guaranteed. I ordered 10 but received 12. When I began examining the pins, 9 of the 12 were fake. Some were discolored, had rough edges while others had bubbles or were entirely the wrong color (black instead of green). I contacted him and he apologized. He said he doesn’t know much about Disney pins. He refunded my money and told me to discard the fakes. What a fraud. I encouraged him to use pin pics and mouse pin trading to educate himself. However, I think he knowa what he’s doing. I never heard back.

  20. tanya on May 15, 2012 at 8:14 pm said:

    I just want to say that I didnt read this till after I had bought my lot of pins on ebay. Surprise Surprise, they are all fake! Seller is upsat that I called them a fraud but whatis it when you are selling fake things saying they are real? Any way do not buy from disneyfamily 801!!!!!!! you will definately be disappointed.

  21. on June 14, 2012 at 1:50 am said:

    I have had my issues with sellers on eBay in the past but most of them have either been shut down or haven’t sold anything in years. there are two sellers though that I have NEVER had an issue with as far as scrappers go; phyllisf124 has mystery lots from time to time, expensive, but I have ordered 150+ from her over the past few months gearing up for my trip to Disneyland and NONE were fake. Sleepys_emporium is another great pin seller, I have been shopping with Sleepy since 2009 and I haven’t been disappointed yet. Sleepy is good for those of us who don’t live near the parks and don’t complete a HM set while we’re there, chances are they have your missing pins :) The great part about these two is that phyllisf24 has a majority of her pins from WDW and a majority of sleepys_emporium are from DLR. One piece of advice that I have to traders who are buying online is look at the price, especially on lots, if it’s a lot of 100 and it’s going for 120 or less chances are that it’s full of scrappers. Happy trading everyone!

  22. Stuart on August 3, 2012 at 5:19 am said:

    Realistically its on Disney to work with a reputable American manufacturer.
    By working with a manufacturer that doesn’t care about stealing from them and us, they are deliberately lowering the intrinsic value.
    We have to assume that any pin purchased off site are scrappers.
    When we see pins valued at 8-10 dollars sold for $1 we must assume we are being cheated. It makes it tough to spend so much for pins that essentially lose their value when you remove the plastic backing.

  23. There is a lot I like about Disney and have enjoyed numerous vacations at disneyworld over the years. But I am extremely disappointed that Disney seems more interested in the bottom line when it comes to pins, than doing what is right. Why are these pins not manufactured in the USA? How do we know that the materials used in China for making these pins are safe to our children’s health? So many products produced in China have been found to be made with chemicals detrimental to our health. The Environmental Working Group website provides many examples.

  24. Marilyn Gold on August 28, 2012 at 6:28 pm said:

    I have been duped by ebay sellers so my uestion is this: Do all Disney pins have the disney trademark on the back and smooth edges? there is a tweedledee/Dum pin that is circulating and in the back it just says disney china..nothing else so I am assuming it is fake.It is supposedly a LE 5000

  25. i was about to pay for Ebay auctions i won from sellers: wdwmagic1928 and another from seller:

    in both cases, before I made payment, I inquired as to the legimacy of the pins. Both seller’s immediately canceled my orders. Seems a little suspicious. The pins i was winning from wdwmagic1928 seemed too good to be true and one was a lot of 10 pins for $10.77, so i was not surprised. However, I’m relieved i did not pay seller upwards of $7 and $9 for pins that the seller clearly had no faith in passing inspection.

    at least wdwmagic1928 replied and may have had a valid concern that I, as a buyer, would be skeptical to be satisfied with anything sent to me. However immediately canceled with no verbal reply. It should also be noted that i was polite in my inquiry as to where the pins came from and if they were park authentic

    PS: both seller’s repeatedly sold Limited Edition Pins of 150 and 250, one after another. Another red flag

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